Fri 9 Mar 2007
Blogarate is a blog rating site and widget combination. The obvious comparable site would be digg.com, but there are subtle differences. Blogarate targets blog posts specifically, as opposed to digg which covers anything that appears on the internet. There are other differences which I’ll cover shortly.
Blogarate is the creation of Clarke Scott, a Former Microsoft Solution Architect MVP. Staying true to his roots Clarke created Blogarate using ASP.Net, SQL Server, and MS Ajax. Take that anti-MS crowd!
Clarke, why did you undertake this project?
To provide a distributed news aggregation platform. By collecting blog post details including rankings at the source Blogarate reflects in greater detail what is making news on the web and what blog readers really see is important. Oh and it’s fun too!
Unlike Digg, there is no way to submit a blog post to the site. Instead it is up to the blogger to include the widget in their posts, which allows the reader to submit the rating. In fact it is impossible to vote for a post on the Blogarate site (as far as I can tell). I actually like this since it drives traffic to the blog, which is how it should work since the blogs are the ones providing the content for these aggregation sites.
Another thing I like is the ability for non-registered users to rate a post and still have it count. This does increase the ease of gaming however. Check out my post on adGridWork from a month or so ago on Blogarate. It was rated three times at 5 starts each time…all by me. One I did with my Blogarate account. The other two were when I wasn’t logged in, but all three were from the same computer/IP address. This is something that is going to have to be looked at before the system can really grow.
From the Blogarate FAQ:
Q: How does the rating system work?
A: Posts are given a rating of 1 to 5 by your readers. The algorithm for the rating system is kept a secret. We have kept this a secret so that the our system is as fair to all bloggers as possible.
My post that I rated 3 times at 5 stars each ended with a score of 15. The “secret” system seems pretty straight forward at this point. In addition to correcting the gaming issue, I would also suggest counting the anonymous votes for less then the registered voters. I think this is a good way to still allow anyone to vote, but controlling the impact of their vote. I would also suggest NOT keeping the system secret. Publish your algorithm and allow for open critique. Users are happier when they know how a system works and you’ll get less of the tinfoil hat types who think their is a conspiracy to promote certain blogs and keep others down.
My other complaint is with the widget. It was simple to install, but I wish I had more control over the look and where it appears on my blog. Some people will want to just put in the code and have it work, but plenty of others have super slick looking blogs and they’ll want to make sure the widget fits in with the theme. I was able to do some minor customization using css:
#PostRatingWidget {
margin: 15px auto;
background: #DDD;
color: #fff;
border: 1px solid #000;
}
But it just isn’t enough. What if I don’t want it sitting alone at the bottom of my post and I’d rather have it floated near the top of the content? Or put it in the header of the post? Maybe this is just a matter of putting together some advanced instructions, but I didn’t see that anywhere on the site.
I feel like I’m being super critical here, but a site that bills itself as “Blog rating widget” should do two things very well - rate and widget. There are big flaws in both of these right now. The flaws are correctable, but before I would even think about growing the user base or adding more features I would want to smooth them out.
I don’t want to give the impression the site is doomed. I like the concept - that the blogs themselves should be driving the ratings, rather than the aggregation sites. I meant my comments above to be constructive and I would definitely like to revisit Blogarate once it’s matured.
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March 9th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Not to pile on, but a few other suggestions:
1) Clear the comment form after a comment is submitted.
2) Clean up your URLs so they are more search engine friendly and emailable. For example this is the URL in your system for my post (line breaks added manually, marked by \):
http://blogarate.com/Post.aspx?Id=527 \
&url=http://www.pseudocoder.com/archives/2007/01/27/ \
adgridwork-worlds-best-free-and-targeted-ad-network/ \
&title=adGridWork%20-%20World%E2%80%99s%20Best%20Free%20and%20Targeted%20Ad%20Network& \
Author=Matt&tags=PHP,%20Advertising&score=15&votes=3&date=3/9/2007%209:43:00%20AM&ScreenCap=
Also if I change the url parameters they are reflected in the content on the page. I can set &score to -50 and it will show -50.
3) I can click on the author’s name and go to a page such as: http://blogarate.com/PostByAuthor.aspx?Author=Matt
However, as a user I would assume I’m getting all posts, but the author I clicked on. Rather I’m getting all posts for anyone who has the word “matt” anywhere in their username. This can be confusing. I would expect to see all posts by the author who wrote the post I was click on, which means hashing the author name as well as the blog name.
March 9th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
ouch!
Back thanls for the honest feedback, it’s nice to get real feedback as apposed to polite feedback.
1: IPAddress tracking was turned off, that has been corrected.
2: Friendly url’s. Fair enough but I’m not sure how that makes the site any less usable!
Although I do see them being emailable as an attractive feature and so…thanks
3: You are not setting the score to + 50 or - 50. You are changing what is displayed on the screen.
Although I will look into this one.
4: In regards to searching by authors. I can widen the search to include to domain and the author name.
That will solve the issue. Thanks for pointing that one out
March 10th, 2007 at 8:26 am
Clarke,
I’m glad you didn’t take anything I said the wrong way. The more I think about the concept of Blogarate the more I like it. I think you could really make something of it.
As per #3 above, I realize I’m not changing the actual database, but I can make the page display what I want by changing the URL. So if I wanted to I could mess with people making up whatever links I want. Or if I were to have a link in my blog somewhere it would always show the same data on your site.
I’m glad the IP thing is back on…bad luck I caught it during the maintenance time.
Gook luck with the site.
March 10th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Matt,
Feedback is good and the URL mess will get changed. I implemented it this way in order to reduce DB roundtrips. But the hacker in you
has shown me that i do need to change this even if it does mean hitting th db for the data.
I really like geeting this kind of feedback and I DO listen so please feel free to provide as much feedback on bugs and problems and features as well!
April 10th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
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