CakePHP Digest #21 - Whose Left?

Posted by Matt on Fri, Oct 23 2009

News

So Long and Thanks For All The Gwoo-Abele

Ok, maybe it'll be easier this way: Everyone NOT leaving the CakePHP dev team please take a step forward. First it was Gwoo who left and then Nate soon after. And now I'm hearing rumors that the "C" is leaving and it'll just be "akePHP". In all seriousness, this is all slightly worrisome for Cake developers (I'll take the liberty of speaking for everyone single one of you here). We're talking about the people listed second and third on the Cake contributors page. How can there not be some anxiousness? The Cake team could kill any doubt about the future of the project with a Bakery article. Here's a template:

Hey Cake Community,
I'm sure some of you have seen the news that Nate and Garrett have left the project. First off, we'd like to thank them for their awesome work over the past few years...(continue lavishing praise. You could stick 6 paragraphs here and you'd barely be scratching the surface). We wish them both the best in their future endeavors. (also note: no parting shots. Whatever disagreement (if any) took place behind the scenes - keep it that way).

Looking forward, we still have some great developers as part of the team. Mark Story is kicking so much ass leading version 1.3. We also have xxxx leading version 2.0 and making great progress. Just last week 2.0 achieved consciousness and now repeatedly asks: "shall we play a game?" They grow up so fast...

You get the picture: 1) praise, 2) restore confidence.

I'd also like to take a moment to personally thank Garrett Woodworth and Nate Abele. I'm sure no one on the outside can truly recognize all the work they've put into the project. Everyone pause and pour1out for your homies. On the bright side we still have Cake and now Garrett and Nate are off to do whatever they have planned next. So basically it's like having conjoined twins who are now separated (probably not the best analogy, but I'm sticking with it).

Updated API and Book...now with more ads!

The Book and API got updated (momentarily dragging the stagnant @cakephp twitter account away from it's beach side chair to make the announcement). AdWords are now showing up for the three of you who don't ad block. My favorite so far is from the Security lib, which was something like "Want to become a security guard?". I was pretty tempted for a moment. Do I get a baton or just a really long flash light that doubles as a weapon? Also there are plenty of Java ads, which are a nice reminder for when you're having a bad day: it could be so much worse.

In The Wild

fontstruct.fontshop.com

This one came in via email. It's a pretty cool looking font creator. I'm not a huge font/typeface nut. The whole legal aspect has always turned me off. So many patents and trademarks and who can use what type and how it can be rendered. Seriously we're talking about fucking letters here. I also once used comic sans in a site design, so basically I have no credibility here.

paularmstrongdesigns.com

New homepage for Paul Armstrong, announced via twitter.

free-bingo-cards.com

A site to make free custom printable bingo cards. Suspiciously hosted on the same IP as this blog.

In The Blogs

Unit Testing CakePHP Shells

I stupidly missed this one in the last digest, proving once again that I shouldn't blog sober.

Top 10 things to look forward to in CakePHP 1.3

Teknoid has a great post counting down some of the changes to CakePHP 1.3. Go ahead and read it right now if you haven't already. Ok, now tell me you're not excited for 1.3.

Anti-CakePHP Tweet(s) I enjoyed

From @alibby:

Feeling marginal about CakePHP. I wonder if there's any other way to feel about it.

From @alexmbarton:

The white screen of death is fantastic fun on a Saturday evening. Thanks #cakephp, we really appreciate it

Code

Google Analytics

Neil Crookes rocks it once again with his Google Analytics plugin.

Croogo - A CMS

From @fahad19: Croogo, a CakePHP powered CMS.

I'm Out!

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As always if you think I missed something leave a comment. Or if you do something interesting and want it included in the next digest, send me an email.

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32 Comments

Matt said on Oct 23, 2009
If I can get 52 comments for my free CakePHP book, then getting 100+ thanking Nate and Garrett should be within reach. Let's make it happen.
Eycke Langhans said on Oct 23, 2009
First of all big THX to Nate and Garrett!
In spite of the article http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/the-cake-is-still-rising I'm still a bit worried about cakePHP. If 2 of the most important project members leaving and taking a very good future approach (Cake3) with them, I would guess their has been a big dispute about the future or philosophy of the project. I think this is a very important point for each cake coder. So guys what's really up??
Robert said on Oct 23, 2009
Thanks for all your work @gwoo and @nateabele. I've always enjoyed development with Cake. Good luck on your super secret project!
Darren said on Oct 23, 2009
@nate & @gwoo - thanks! CakePHP is the bedrock of many of my projects and I've learned a ton working with it.

But the current version fragmentation and core devs leaving has, as noted above, shaken my confidence a little. And WTF is Li3 (besides an anti-depressant?) I am officially intrigued.
SayB said on Oct 23, 2009
Nate and Gwoo - so long and best of luck fellas, you guys have done a great job and KICKED SO MUCH ASS ! in the cakephp project. It's truly the most remarkable of the MVC PHP Frameworks out there and frankly I've worked in other too but no one kicks that much ass as CakePHP does.
Jose Diaz-Gonzalez said on Oct 23, 2009
Thanks all devs (as it seems alkemann is leaving too..) for all your work, whether you are leaving or not. Past 10 months have meant that I am actually useful at my job instead of bsing, and CakePHP puts me in a position that I am confident about knowing PHP and MVC well enough that I could take on almost any job. I look forward to Lithium from @nateabele and @gwoo (and @alkemann?) and to CakePHP 1.3 and CakePHP 2.0. Wishing everyone all the best, as regardless, there is no way I'm going to Spaghetti code or Zend :P
Gary Dalton said on Oct 23, 2009
Many of us developers greatly appreciate the work put into cakePHP. We also know that @nateabele and @gwoo are important contributors and that they will be missed. Thank you guys.
Sam D said on Oct 23, 2009
Thanks from e to Gwoo and Nate, amazingly long time putting up with all us fish, and thanks for amazing work on a great framework

- Grumpy Old Fart
teknoid said on Oct 23, 2009
I am personally sad to see cake "fall apart" a little. Hopefully things will work themselves out, as they usually do. However, having to learn yet another framework might just align that ambition with the day of my retirement.

That aside, thanks Nate and Garrett for all your hard work! ... and best of luck in everything.
Ivan said on Oct 23, 2009
Thanks guys for building what's probably THE best PHP framework around! Stay well and keep us updated on what you've got planned next.
jmcneese said on Oct 23, 2009
nate/gwoo, guys, best of luck. now give me access to lithium, damn it.
Arnold Almeida said on Oct 23, 2009
omg i cant believe gwoo and nate are leaving.

Thanks heaps for the great work your guys have done over the years. I sincerely wish you the best of luck in the future your imprint on the framework wil not got unoticed.
OJ Tibi said on Oct 23, 2009
First it was Garrett, and now Nate. Cheers to the both of you.

Wait, you mean LI3 is a MAOI? I might consider getting one of those. Just kidding. :)

You guys have to understand that Sam DeVore is now on "rant mode" and he is "irked". (imitating the voice of the villain from the Bolt movie). LOL!

And Matt, you want people to make custom bingo cards? Seriously? :D
Matt said on Oct 23, 2009
My next project is much more tech friendly...just you wait...
tg2345 said on Oct 23, 2009
This just blows, yeah you've put in a lot of hard work but then just sort of ditching out is crap. I don't see how putting cakephp in jeopardy of failing after bringing it so far to just put out lithium, whatever that may be, is a good move. Really if cake ends up failing, losing momentum, and I have to go learn another framework man that is going to piss me off. They really let me down.
Matt said on Oct 23, 2009
Miles Johnson said on Oct 23, 2009
Jumping the gun a bit aren't we?
tg2345 said on Oct 23, 2009
I just read that, I'm just saying it is sort of ridiculous and annoying that people put in all this work, and then just drop it. And I understand that the people still developing cake are highly skilled. I just hope that them leaving doesn't kill cakes momentum and development.
Nate Abele said on Oct 30, 2009
Oh, right, I forgot. We owe you. Sorry about that. ;-)
Robert Navarro said on Nov 04, 2009
lol @Nate
Fahad said on Oct 23, 2009
@nateabele and @gwoo: best of luck on your future projects. and thanks for all the hard work. looking forward to #li3.

@mcurry: thanks for listing my cms :)
Dan said on Oct 23, 2009
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives...

I feel like this can only be a good thing for us. It seems like CakePHP will continue moving forward and now we will get something new (Li3) to play with. So it might all work out nicely.

Just hope that someday the truth comes out about who disagreed with who, why they *really* left and who killed J.R.

As always Matt, a good read...
Miles Johnson said on Oct 23, 2009
Thanks as always to nate and gwoo, you will be in my memories forever, lol disregard that last part.
Neil Crookes said on Oct 23, 2009
@nate & @gwoo, you guys rock. very sorry to hear this news, but sure you have your reasons.

not going to wish you luck in the future as that would imply that I wouldn't hear from you again, which would be a far worse tragedy because at the 2 cakefests I met you, I had a great time and learnt a lot. so instead I'll say stay in touch (@gwoo, maybe this change in career is also the perfect opportunity to start tweeting ;-) ) and if you're ever in the UK, give me a shout.

@matt, cheers for the plug, also worth mentioning is @pointlessjon's add-in to my plugin for integrating Google Data's Picasa Web Albums API, which leverages the base GdataSource in my plugin.

finally, @cakephp community, I blame myself for these recent events having selected Zend Framework for a recent very high traffic project and inflicting bad juju on us all. sorry I won't do it again ;-)
OJ Tibi said on Oct 24, 2009
Baaad juju! (there, I said that right. Almost got away saying badjoj... oops!)
georgeharito said on Oct 23, 2009
Wishing Nate and gwoo all the best in future endeavours, and thanks for their valuable contributions so far. Yes, 2 core devs are leaving in quick succession, but I don't think this is putting CakePHP in jeopardy. The project is open source, anyone can contribute (and many people do, no matter how big or small their contribution may be), I'm sure someone will step up to the plate and fill the space that Nate and gwoo will be leaving behind. CakePHP has gained so much momentum that it's a bit like a speeding train, a bit hard to slow down.

Looking forward to li3, whatever it may be.
Derek Anderson said on Oct 23, 2009
I too was shocked to see Gwoo's ohlo message, and now Nates tweet! Thanks for the great work you fellas have put into making developers lives better, look forward to checking out Li3!
Nick said on Oct 25, 2009
Good luck to you Gwoo and Nate. I'm looking forward to what you come up with -- Li3.
John said on Oct 26, 2009
@Matt - really only 52 comments on your book? You should push for 100 too.

Good luck to Gwoo and Nate - just had a quick look at the Lithium wiki and can't wait to give it a go.

I would hope that the Cake community is big enough and enthusiastic enough to get over Gwoo and Nate leaving - and I would be very surprised if it wasn't - there are a lot of smart and generous people in the Cake community and it'll be fun to see where it goes next, as new people taking up lead positions will almost certainly bring in slightly different philosophies.

Anyway from my quick scan of the Lithium wiki - a whole lot of it is devoted to talking about making it friendly with and easy to integrate bits of other frameworks...

Exciting times.
Robert Navarro said on Nov 04, 2009
@Nate and @Gwoo

Thanks for all the hard work and dedication that you've put into making Cake the most awesome framework ever, also, kudos for using the term "automagic" to describe Cake =D
Justin Kennedy said on Nov 06, 2009
Thank you @Nate and @Gwoo for giving us such a highly productive development environment. And no Nate, you don't owe us anything as you've already given so much :) I look forward to your next project.
Olle Jonsson said on Feb 11, 2010
Yeah seriously, @nate and @gwoo, thanks. You're great.

Smiles and rainbows.

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